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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Realists accept that it has lead to a long-term reduction in UK GDP of at least 4% and weakens our global influence. I don't think you're quite there yet.

Andrew, it's you who refuses to get it.

"Weakens our global influence": What global influence have we had since the Suez crisis in 1956? Very little because were were in debt to the USA and the other two big players, Russia and China, spit on us. We do have nuclear weaponry, but that is defensive and gives us little influence.

Under the EU, we barely had influence within that.

"Reduction of GDP by 4%": It'll grow again for the reasons I've given many times. British business will see to that.