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Originally Posted by roughbeast

If Sunak had merely pointed out that the flow of of illegal migrants and the flow of asylum seeker was likely to increase, mostly because of the direct and indirect political effects of climate change, that would be one thing. Something has to be done to help stabilise countries badly affected by climate change and to help people mitigate the effects in their own countries. This is essential or billions will be on the move. We in Europe won't be able to cope with that!

However, Sunak goes a step further into mindless conspiracy theory. He is trying to convince us that hostile states are deliberately driving refugees towards us in an attempt to overwhelm our cultures and democracies. In spouting that dangerous garbage he is clearly trying to create a rightwing axis of agreement and action across Europe and at the same time outflank the Reform Party, Farage et al, who spout similar bile. He spends too much time with Islamophobic nutjobs like Georgia Meloni, Le Penn and his role model Modi. He sees electoral salvation in promoting an anti-immigrant narrative and Islamophobia, carefully without mentioning the words Islam or Muslim.


He should advocate ways of helping folk stay in their own countries, stop attacking the victims, speed up the processing of those already here, create safe, legal routes so we can take our fair share of refugees in a controlled way (This would outflank the people traffickers.) and concentrate with other European countries on crushing the traffickers. Will he do that? No! There's more Tory votes in attacking and demonising victims, and in creating a narrative that appeals to racists, xenophobes and Islamophobes. He even thinks he can secure the red wall with that kind of trash, but I have a feeling that the British people have more brains and compassion than that and that British values will prevail.

However, Sunak goes a step further into mindless conspiracy theory. He is trying to convince us that hostile states are deliberately driving refugees towards us in an attempt to overwhelm our cultures and democracies.

To my mind, not in the least 'mindless'. It's highly likely and the evidence is there with Russia having sent 'refugees' through Finland and Belarus likewise into Poland. Hostile states operating as Sunak states is exactly part of what's happening.

He should advocate ways of helping folk stay in their own countries, stop attacking the victims, ......

What 'ways' would those be? That's pie in the sky for a whole host of reasons. There are c. 750+ millions Africans who might find the need to leave Africa. If anything like that happens, even a million, they'll try to fight their way inti Europe because it won't be allowed. There's no 'way' of finding a 'way' for 'folk to stay in their own countries'. How's that to be done.

You mention 'Islamophobes'. What is phobic about fearing Islam when it's name is used to mass-murder people in New York, Paris, London, Sderot and so on? Who are we letting into this country on the boats? How can we police the 300,000 if they get violent as one day they might?

On your final point about British values prevailing, when we're overrun by a different culture, then poof - British values are gone.