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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Interesting term, revenge campaign, not sure I'd have come up with that but President Biden made a speech the other day where he said words to the effect of Israel is losing international support due to indiscriminate bombing and then a non binding vote 153 countries voted for an end to the violence with an immediate ceasefire, 12 more than what criticised Russia so strongly for invading Ukraine, so I'd say he had a point. I also see that Biden imposed new sanctions on the leaders of hamas too going after their finances but according to Sephiroth I was talking pie in the sky when suggesting that as he said I was when saying hamas would take over the west bank too if they weren't stopped and guess what, support for them there is growing massively although that's not really surprising when 13 year old children are being killed there and the sick are made to wait in ambulances till they die, that's without mentioning the thousands rounded up for a bit of detention without trial and a roughing up in there no doubt, anyway back to revenge campaign, 18500 dead that we know of well over 50000 injured and thousands more buried under rubble and Israeli officials begging the world not to believe the figures, probably because they're just to horrifying

"Revenge"

the action of hurting or harming someone in return for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands

Seems fair to me. Don't forget, Israel has effectively locked down Gaza from external monitoring so what they are doing there, to a large extent, is beyond prying eyes.

Whether this was the plan at the beginning, we'll never know but what is playing out now is the ethnic cleaning of at least northern Gaza. The wholesale destruction of housing, plus, more importantly, hospitals & schools means that resettlement, even if allowed, would be an immense challenge.

Likud are now saying the quiet bits out loud:

'We're Rolling Out Nakba 2023,' Israeli Minister Says on Northern Gaza Strip Evacuation

Israeli security cabinet member and Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter (Likud) was asked in a news interview on Saturday whether the images of northern Gaza Strip residents evacuating south on the IDF’s orders are comparable to images of the Nakba. He replied: “We are now rolling out the Gaza Nakba. From an operational point of view, there is no way to wage a war – as the IDF seeks to do in Gaza – with masses between the tanks and the soldiers.”

When asked again whether this was the “Gaza Nakba”, Dichter – a member of the security cabinet and former Shin Bet director – said “Gaza Nakba 2023. That’s how it’ll end.”

When later asked if this means Gaza City residents won’t be allowed to return, he replied: “I don’t know how it’ll end up happening since Gaza City is one-third of the Strip – half the land’s population but a third of the territory.”

For reference, the Nakba is commonly defined as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

The Nakba (Arabic: النكبة, romanized: an-Nakbah, lit. 'the catastrophe') refers to the violent displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, along with the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations. The term is used to describe the events of 1948, as well as the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians throughout the region, including the occupation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and the Gaza Strip)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I genuinely believe that you are not thinking straight due to some form of bias.

There can be little doubt that Israel's actions include a "revenge" element. But it is not a "campaign of revenge" - it is a campaign to eliminate Hamas.

It shows some form of conscious bias that you skew your answers so as to make Israel the villain. It's all very well t say that you've already condemned Hamas; but you condemn Israel in every post and then complain when I point out how one sided you are.

Plus, of course, you have no idea on what else Israel should have done following 7-Oct's barbarism by Hamas.

Yet again, I have condemned Hamas multiple times but they are not currently killing Israelis by the thousands. Israel, however, are killing Gazans by the thousands hence the ongoing commentary on their actions. It really is quite a basic concept.

I have answered the question before on what I personally think they should have done post Oct 7, as has others, so stop trolling me.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s evident you have me on ignore. These words show you for who you are, what you think and that you are not in this discussion impartially or in good faith.

Which is fine.

We know now you.

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