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Originally Posted by Maggy

Neither side is innocent in this and neither of them has any right to claim moral integrity.I also dislike the idea that we have to choose a side.

The world should NOT be picking a side in this.It should be condemning both of them and standing up to them and insisting that they stop making war on complete innocents.

I'm actually quite fearful that the world is on the verge of a possible conflagration that will suck us all in.

The world should NOT be picking a side in this. It should be condemning both of them and standing up to them and insisting that they stop making war on complete innocents.

It's difficult not to see value in your remark. But ....

Condemning the Ultras in the West Bank for their disgusting behaviour toward Palestinians doe not carry the same weight as condemning Hamas for their butchery, rape and murder.

And how should the world stand up to Hamas? The world generally finds it easy to condemn Israel.

Your "conflagration" point is interesting. There's no shortage of puppet-masters and malevolent actors who regard Israel and the USA as evil Satans. Theyt've already got conflagration going in Gaza.



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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Actually I'd say most Palestinians and most Israelis are innocent, they may partiality/ tacitly support the government/ regime but I'd imagine most just want to get on with life with as little trouble as possible, like the rest of us really, especially the children, as ever it's the extremists and nutters ruining it for everyone else

Trouble is that the Ultras number at least 1 million and their "innocence" is rather narrow.