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Old 05-12-2023, 21:44   #960
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Re: Hamas Israel War

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
This isn’t a war in any meaningful sense, it’s a massacre until Israel gets bored of it
The military arm of the government of a defacto Palestinian state attacked Israel, Israel in return declared war against that government and defacto Palestinian state.

This is a war.

The parallels to this action an Afghanistan are almost identical. Unless you think Afghanistan wasn’t a war in any meaningful sense.

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Palestinian civilians are, broadly, defenceless.
That’s pretty much priced in with the term Civillian.

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For those that haven’t been killed many have already lost everything they have
That tends to be what happens to civilians unfortunately caught up in war zones

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and there will be no meaningful reconstructions afterwards.
that remains to be seen

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Economies take generations to recover from the kinds of damage that have been undertaken to date.
Yes, as did ours.

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Is that a punishment on hundreds of thousands a price worth paying for a security that will never exist?
At least you admit here that the region just won’t tolerate Israel’s right to exist, and therefore Israel is right to take whatever steps necessary to ensure it’s security.

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I don’t think this war should be “played by different rules”. I think it should stop. It doesn’t make Israel, its allies, or Jewish communities around the world any safer the longer it continues.
As previous answer……just curious, what would make it safer?


I disagree with that last paragraph for what it’s worth. What the West has seemed to have forgotten is that it is not diplomacy that keeps the peace, it is strength and power. Show weakness and you will be attacked by opportunists. Examples of this are many fold, throughout history.

Israel, and certainly not Netanyahu, cannot afford to look weak ever again.
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