[Sephiroth]

[QUOTE=roughbeast;36165783]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Save another generation from Brussels.

To answer Roughie's question:

Brexit is defined for me as gaining sovereignty so as not to be governed by a foreign entity.

Then, an investment friendly government can help industry to build prosperity.

Definition is very simple; execution needs competence.

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1. Some might argue that given that a proportionate number of elected decision makers and appointed Brussels civil servants were British, we weren't governed by a foreign entity.

2. How did that technical gain in sovereignty actually translate into having more control over the destiny of the country? For example. did that mean that we could get better trade deals than we did through the EU? I know it's early days, and Moggy's 50 years aren't up yet, but have Mr and Mrs Soap seen positive outcomes from this increase in sovereignty?

3. Did we need to leave the EU for an investment wizard to make the country prosperous? After all, up until the global crash of 2008, it could be argued that the outcomes of Labour's investment in people and things were improved by access to the Single Market and other EU institutions..

Here we go!

1. Some might argue that given that a proportionate number of elected decision makers and appointed Brussels civil servants were British, we weren't governed by a foreign entity.

Why guard your remark with "some might argue"? What is your belief? The civil servants execute EU policy. It is EU policy to bring about "ever closer union" which the UK majority did not want and a whole raft of people (principally young) did not understand.

2. How did that technical gain in sovereignty actually translate into having more control over the destiny of the country? For example. did that mean that we could get better trade deals than we did through the EU? I know it's early days, and Moggy's 50 years aren't up yet, but have Mr and Mrs Soap seen positive outcomes from this increase in sovereignty?

Your question is blinkered Remoaner language. As I've consistently said, it takes a competent government to create the business friendly environment that will make as prosper (without taking orders from Brussels). Sadly, we don't have that government. Plus COVID knocked a £40 billion hole in our economy and Truss a further similar sum.

3. Did we need to leave the EU for an investment wizard to make the country prosperous? After all, up until the global crash of 2008, it could be argued that the outcomes of Labour's investment in people and things were improved by access to the Single Market and other EU institutions.

No, we did not need to leave the EU to meet your criteria. We did need to leave the EU for so long as they wanted to make their supreme court superior to ours. I draw the line at that for a very simple reason that we should all support: Why is the EU Parliament so keen on EU integration as a single political entity? Answer: So that they have superiority over our and other parliaments. . That is unacceptable to me and should be to you. We may all look alike, but we don't sufficiently think alike.