[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Some of your posts on this thread have been quite considered, Seph, but this seems distinctly at odds with them. Emotion seems to have taken precedence over analysis.

Whilst the 7 October terrorist attacks were barbarous, this did not logically mean Israel had to respond in a way that left 13,000 people dead. They responded in this way to try and save Netanyahu's power and not for the long-term benefit of the people of Israel.

Not at all, Andrew. I don't do emotion in the Forum.

The @Ian was very specific. He comes across in his posts as far less considered than you. The civilian death toll in this war is really regrettable. But Ian makes little or no allowance for the murderous attack by Hamas on 7-October. He has no realistic answer for how Israel should have reacted to the Hamas attack.

It is no good going back into history as to how Israel could have behaved in the past so as to avoid finding itself in its current position. Ian (and others) ignore the role of Iran in callously stirring this up. Ian ignores the barbarity of Hamas as being central to Israel's response.

As regards the second piece I've highlighted, what response by Israel would have been 'logical'? One could be 100% certain that Israel would provide an iron fist response to the Hamas attack and what is more, Iran and Hamas would have known that. Remember, those zealots believe in virgins in heaven.

As regards Netanyahu, who obviously wants to stay in power- the Ultras may well keep him there till the next GE just to keep their slice of power. Because of the Ultras, I can't help feeling that there is more grief to come for Israel. The Ultras' settlement programme in the West Bank pretty much guarantees that no political settlement is possible.

Shit creek, nix paddle and bigger shit to come.