[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Similar numbers, if not more, protested the Iraq war.

Yes, but that was Western colonisers invading Islamic nations

I don’t think I’ve seen many protest Saudi Arabia’s actions against Yemen

Not much about Syria killing their own ( but ‘stop the war’ did jump in when we suggested getting involved)

When there were marches by actual Muslims against violence by Muslims I regards to ISIS in 2017, there weren’t so many Barnabys, Indigos and Tarquins marching along.

If Israel are concerned by the numbers protesting around the world then they could abide by the norms and customs that we consider acceptable in war.

I’m fairly certain Israel are not concerned in the slightest, and couldn’t care less.

I’ll pre-empt “why don’t you ask Hamas to?” by answering now - I hold nation states that would claim to be civilised above to a higher standard and it’s only right to. It’s what is supposed to distinguish the two.

I wasn’t going to ask that.

But a nations first responsibility is to its citizens and to protect them and itself. Above all else.

If you can’t defend your nation, you have no nation.

The nations surrounding Israel do not respect diplomacy, they do not respect talks, they do not respect any sign of weakness. This is arguably why we are where we are.

What they respect and respond to is power, Israel now know that diplomacy and talks are a dead end.

If a county wants to discard these norms they will, rightly, be condemned.

. By some, by others not experiencing an existential attack

There’s no requirement to run through every injustice in the world before arriving at the plight of the Palestinian people being massacred and survivors having everything they have taken from them. They have just as much right to live in peace in their own land as Israelis.

No they don’t, not if their representatives attack the Israelis and want to remove the Jews from the land…………then it becomes a straight fight for survival.

If Israel, or any of its supporters, wants to deny them that fundamental right then there’s well known terms for that.

if Palestinian Hamas wants to deny the Jews their fundamental right there is indeed a well known term for that.

If two “Arab-Muslim” nations went to war. The value in protesting is massively reduced.

Thank you, you’ve answered that perfectly ( I removed the bullshit) but the truth shone through…….blindingly.