[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Last time I tried I was told it was pie in the sky and despite just days later the US Secretary of State telling Israel much of what I suggested was the right thing to do I think I've learnt my lesson, besides which you're the one with the bright ideas, why would you suggest something without being in full receipt of the facts and potential ramifications

I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about..

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Originally Posted by Hugh

That would be an invalid statement - the Palestinian Authority has worked towards a Two State Solution a number of times.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/two-state-solution

Unless you are stating that Hamas represents all Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, even though they are banned in the West Bank and 74% of the current population of Gaza have never voted for them?

I urge everyone to read this article, yes you too JFman, because it also validates your stance, and Chris’ and possibly Hugh’s as well.

There is……there is no answer…depressingly……until there is eventually a full on genocide of the Jews.

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/is...tate-solution/

The result of the current assault, and its most likely aftermath, will not, therefore, be a rejection of Hamas. Unless the occupation of Palestine ends, which is not in prospect, the aftermath will most probably be the emergence of Hamas Mark 2, more violent, more authoritarian and ideologically driven, and possibly more globally focused than before.

= Chris’ and I think JF’s earlier point.

Hamas will not lose the will to fight. Nor will the Palestinian victims of its actions and the Israeli response insist, to any meaningful effect, upon an end to violence. As on the Israeli side of the equation since the horrors of 7 October, a fundamental line has been crossed.

Western rhetoric notwithstanding, there will be no two-state solution, nor much prospect of meaningful steps being taken towards achieving one. Instead, there will be recurring cycles of violence.

Israel will prevail in those conflicts with the Palestinians until, one day, it doesn’t. And when that day comes, even generations from now, the reckoning will be terrible.

I think, as I have said above a couple of times now, this only ends with the eradication of one people from the region, be them Jew or Palestinian.

Palestinians would not be eradicated, as they can migrate to neighbouring states, if Israel fail to protect themselves………they will be exterminated.