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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Did you read that, or just see the headline on your Google search, and copy and paste it?
“Some” Members of the UN did. The representative of the League of Arab States whilst demanding a Ceasefire certainly doesn’t.
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In the same meeting, however, the body failed to adopt an amendment to that resolution that would have unequivocally rejected and condemned the terrorist attacks by Hamas in Israel starting on 7 October.
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they couldn’t even agree to unilaterally condemn the atrocities of Oct 7th……….good old UN.
I know you didn’t read this one as you have to subscribe to it.
The letter, which isn’t published, and I’ve checked several other sites and still not seen it, doesn’t ask for immediate release of hostages. It asked for a ceasefire and to “work towards” a release of hostages…..very different.
I’ll give the Pope his due………but he is the Pope. Your other links also pass muster.
But in future if you’re just going to do a Google search, and copy the headlines that look like they align with your point, I’ll think even less of you than I do now…………
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Originally Posted by jfman
Sorry Pierre I thought history started on October 7.
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I’ve never said that.
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If we are going back further, only to further the Zionist cause, you must permit the deaths of tens of thousands of Palestinians prior to your arbitrary start date be brought into the debate.
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I didn’t set an arbitrary date.
I’m happy to go back to the 16th century BCE if you like.
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It’s difficult to work out a response to the rest of your post since you seem to be advocating a genocide, something to universally reprehensible the arguments rarely need made, I’ll save the rest of the forum members from the back and forth.
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No it’s quite simple, I break it down even simpler. As we know only a single state solution is acceptable to Palestinians. Relocation of Palestinians is not a genocide, there is ample land in Sinai and other neighbouring Arab states to accommodate Palestinians to enable a single Israeli state solution.
To flip it the other way, to a single Palestinian state solution the Jews cannot relocate anywhere n any neighbouring Arab state, as they would all be killed in a matter of months and that would be genocide.
Quite simple really.
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You are only seeing what you want to see, and cherry picking events from a complex history to suit.
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no I’m not, as I say, I set no arbitrary date, I’m happy to go back to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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Israel already occupies Gaza by any international standard and once they have boots on the ground long term as Netanyahu indicates nobody can be surprised when whatever state apparatus Israel puts in place will becomes a target - and a legitimate under international law given the atrocities committed by Israel in the last month. There’s no victory, military or moral, to be had.
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Israel only entered Gaza in the last few days. It has not occupied it since 2005
You and I have a different definition of atrocity.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
and why is that?
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Do tell us.