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Originally Posted by jfman
There’s no real evidence for the claim that any of the states bordering Israel want to ethnically cleanse Jews. It’s a Zionist dog whistle.
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That’s one of the most laughable statements from you, from any time.
All Jews inhabiting neighbouring states were driven, and Israel ever succumbed to those states in a war, it would be a genocide, a proper genocide.
https://youtu.be/p9YcAEYr7Ww?si=6Ys1VpIbsejpJMkA
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It’s definitely a non-starter if Israel are complicit in the political functioning, and funding, of Hamas over the status of the Palestinian authority.
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Sorry, you’re going to have to help me out with that.
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The scenario you describe would be called genocide because that’s what it would be, not because anyone on this forum claimed it so.
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Israel is surrounded on all sides by Islamic Arab states. Egypt has all of Sinai, that could easily accommodate all Palestinians. There wouldn’t have to be a genocide displacing Palestinians to neighbouring Arab states.
But neighbouring Arab states don’t want Palestinians at all.
Israelis don’t have that option, Israelis could not be displaced to neighbouring states as they would all be dead in a few months.
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Doesn’t sound like much of a commitment to be honest.
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Well, when you’re outgunned and your very survival depends on how you play the few the cards you have, you have play with what you’ve got.
It’s irrelevant, Hamas is a jihadi death cult, so they won’t do it. If good Muslims die they go to heaven so they don’t care if their own people die, if they kill infidels…well they deserve to die anyway.
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You asked the question why you don’t hear as many people calling for it. I simply pointed out the biggest threat to the lives of any hostages is the same threat to all the civilians (including women and children) in Gaza. An Israeli bomb.
At some point it’s up to people how they want to expend their energy, and there’s a clear rationale for why a ceasefire is of greater humanitarian importance than the release of hostages. The only rationale for not doing so is valuing a lesser number of Israeli lives above a greater number of Palestinian ones.
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I’ll take that as a no. I wasn’t asking for analysis, I was asking you what think and it’s a yes or no answer.