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Old 07-11-2023, 08:35   #599
jfman
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Re: Hamas Israel War

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
A point worth noting this morning when considering any information released by Hamas:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67321241

Mouzak and his crew are profoundly unserious people if they think they can continue to claim “it didn’t happen, and it wasn’t us anyway it was those armed Hamas people” even while journalists are playing back videos of the massacres of children right in their faces.
I’ll file it next to the IDF claiming they don’t target civilians with my photos of all the hospitals, refugee camps and churches that have been bombed. Alongside whole neighbourhoods razed to the ground.

I trust you aren’t using this to dispute the headline figure of civilian casualties, women and children killed? If anything even the Israeli’s think it’s an undercount.

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
This is why I don't understand why the BBC and MSM, blindly report death figures from the Gaza Health Ministry aka Hamas.

I'm not belittling what's going on, or reducing it to a numbers game. but what was the last count 10,000 + 3,500 children dead. I mean of course it wouldn't play to their advantage to over inflate the figures to put more pressure on Israel would it?
Of course it could be that it’s the only health ministry they have. There’s been little indication they’ve fudged the figures over the years.

Even Israeli sources are quoting 20,000 killed, and US sources questioning whether the Israeli actions are even making a dent in Hamas capability.

It’s more likely the BBC and others are using “Hamas run” to give Israel that cover to dispute the figure, which it appears they don’t even bother to do.

By anyone’s count the Israeli’s have killed more civilians - and far more children - in a month than Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine has in around a year and three quarters. An armed conflict that has saw Russia secure 20% of Ukrainian territory, something around the size of the UK. Gaza is a mere city being obliterated with no regard for the civilians living there.

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