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Old 24-10-2023, 01:49   #499
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Re: Hamas Israel War

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
So you're arguing for assassination by Israel in a foreign country. Might that set the wider conflagration off?
No I'm not, going after them doesn't have to mean kill them, it means make their lives hard, get them deported, maybe find a way to jail them

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Sure - right thing to do in principle. But if those accounts are in Doha with an Arab bank, what then?
Sanction the bank, there's a fair few oligarchs like Mikhail Friedman who'll testify how easy it is to turn off the financial taps

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Nice in theory. But won't the Palestinians just call it "western propaganda"? Is your suggestion realistic?
They didn't when Arafat died, they knew Fatah was corrupt just by looking at what cars they drove past in whilst the majority had nothing and were sitting in the dust the fancy cars threw up

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Interesting. Does Fatah have the appetite or the means to make that opposition work? Or is Israel so much the enemy that Fatah will not take up your suggestion?
They better have the appetite or else things will get ugly on the west bank soon enough and Israel aren't stupid they know Fatah had the same destruction of Israel type charter and now they don't, even going as far as legitimising Israels right to exist by recognising their right to govern in certain areas, if they're not supported hamas will take over just like they did in Gaza

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Isn't that pie-in-the sky? Who would appoint that leader? Why isn't there a better leader of Fatah now?
Abbas isn't great, he's embezzling knew no bounds early in his tenure but he's been there a long time and that in itself is stability for an organisation in disarray, his and Fatahs big problem is he's 87, he can't have that long left, actually decay might have been a better word than disarray given how old most of the leadership is. A guy called Mahmud Aloul is heir apparent and it's doubtful he's up to it

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
OK, just to clear this up, it seems that the phrase which has proved controversial to some has different meanings (just like ‘jihad’ apparently).

My meaning was ‘learn from it’ and that’s exactly what all those who think it’s a great idea to vote for a terrorist organisation should ponder.

I did not mean that phrase as insulting, although I get why some did.
Oh well, suck it up
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