Thread: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
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Old 21-10-2023, 13:14   #434
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Re: Hamas Israel War
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
OB the distance between your input into this thread and reality could be measured in light years.

I refer to my first post of the day - where I pointed out that late on a Friday night you took it upon yourself to question what side other forum members were on and accusing another linking an independent source of using Hamas narratives. Neither stood up to scrutiny. The only other constant alongside your blatant disregard for Palestinian life.
What I will agree with you is that the gap in perspective between you and me can be measured in light years.

You may think you are right about everything, but if you’re saying my view of things is not credible, I would point out, again, that both the PM and the Leader of the Opposition are of the view that Israel need to take out Hamas, but with as few civilian casualties as possible. My view is exactly the same.

Your stance, if carried out, would solve nothing and prolong this war.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I've been consistently saying that Israel has a right to defend itself but not to collectively punish Palestinians living in Gaza.

You've still failed to show how cutting off utilities is the quick and effective weapon for flushing out Hamas. And, instead of sensibly trying to prove your point or retract it, you've sidestepped the issue and chosen instead to accuse other forum members like Hugh of favouring a Hamas narrative.
I am not side stepping anything. I’ve told you what I think. I am happy for you to disagree as long as you don’t get involved in government….

Israel is not collectively punishing civilians. It is attempting to flush out Hamas. The civilians are an unfortunate casualty of that, but causing them grief is not the objective. This is on Hamas, who deliberately hide amongst the population and are actively blocking them from leaving Gaza City to go to the south of the country.

I see that the border has been opened now to let some trucks through, which is good news for them.
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