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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
What's your source about the effectiveness of this approach?
Cutting off the utilities to the entire population is classified by brighter minds than ours as a collective punishment. It's really not that hard to work out why.
I've not expressed a preferred option, I've just said that international law needs to be followed. But don't kid yourself that any military action will end the war.
Benchmarking against Hamas - which is what you did - is a race to the bottom.
I've not followed the words of Sunak and Starmer to know their views on the utilities. Though like of all of us, they acknowledge the right of Israel to defend itself. I'm not sure anyone on this Forum needs to fall in line with their views anyway.
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Your approach almost guarantees a Hamas win. Which begs the question. whose side are you on?
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Originally Posted by ianch99
I believe this is the post John referred to:
anti-Jewish == anti-Semite
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10 out of 10. Tell me what other deductions you can deduce.. I’m all ears…
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Notice how they are talking about the ‘immediate’ impact?
Why are you supporting the Hamas narrative? Do you really think that with a beer in a pub with these nice guys, you can win an argument over a few pints?
You really are delusional if you believe that we can ever come to an agreement with these monsters. They need to be eliminated.
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Originally Posted by Paul
Where ? Please provide details as Ive looked back and I cant find this.
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Agreed. A rather curious remark. Too many beers, perhaps.
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Originally Posted by jfman
Pierre we debated this in a civil way despite quite fundamental disagreements over the first few days and I know deep down you wouldn’t take up those positions at this point.
At absolute best Israel are at the limit, if not passing it a few days ago. There’s nothing to be gained continuing like this.
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It’s curious how little you say about Hamas.
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Originally Posted by jfman
Well no, you’ve just described war crimes.
A proportionate response - I’m sure we’d actually agree on - is one that ruthlessly slaughters Hamas (and any entities assisting) while minimising civilian casualties. One that reduces its capabilities to strike Israel. It’s a balancing act that could be debated almost endlessly.
But this ain’t it.
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If the aim is to root out Hamas (as opposed to punishing civilians) then it is not a war crime. Sorry to burst your bubble.