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Old 16-10-2023, 10:48   #275
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Re: Hamas Israel War

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Originally Posted by Maggy View Post
I condemn both sides and you still make out that I'm partisan?You have no basic understanding of plain English apparently or you are just blinkered in your world view.

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I supported Israel for years BUT in the last 5 years I have been appalled by their behaviour in regards to their neighbours. I have no love for ANY terrorist organisation least of all Hamas.I dislike every single person who would support them. THE ONLY PEOPLE I SUPPORT IN THIS SITUATION are those who are who are just ordinary people who cannot escape the power hungry terrorist groups and the big bad wolf on their border who have persuaded the entire western world that they are the saints in this situation.You be fooled if you want I'm not.

Israel have gotten away with being bullies for too long especially under Benjamin Netanyahu.

The then belligerent neighbours (Egypt, Jordan, Syria) play heavily into this; the partitions are a direct result of that belligerence. Israel has had to build its defences into a formidable force and even then, as Hamas has shown it isn't enough.

The barbarism of Hamas cannot be set against Israel's bad behaviour in relation to the settlements.

Tell me, what should Israel do? Hamas and Hezbollah (and Iran) want the Jews to be exterminated or removed from their country.

For what my opinion is worth, you should separate your criticism of Israel's (bad) settlement incursion policy from the absolute barbarism of Hamas. Otherwise you come across as saying that Israel had this coming to them.




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Originally Posted by jfman View Post


Said completely without irony.

You are the man who said people would rise up here if anyone threatened to reopen negotiations on a trade settlement.

How will your average Palestinian teenager, who now hasn’t been at school for over a week, evacuated from their home now destroyed, that now has absolutely nothing thanks to Israel, potentially dead family members, react when an Iranian hands them a few hundred dollars and a gun in ten years time?

None of them will thank the United States for putting two battle groups offshore to permit it, that’s for certain. Nor will they see any comfort in the 2006 Palestinian election results.

There’s a fault in the British mindset where it’s so clouded by its own colonial history it simply cannot comprehend the rights of the colonised to live with freedom, dignity and respect. And their right to fight for that cause.

(Note to avoid any doubt: that final sentence doesn’t condone terror attacks on cilivians as distinct from state apparatus)

Nah, John - not this time.

The general British mindset never thinks about our colonial past - even when it's rammed down our throats by the wokerati and fellow travellers seeking "compensation" for the aid money trousered by their current rulers.



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