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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
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Originally Posted by jfman
I think you'll find I did condemn it Chris - merely not using the spineless rhetoric that we are required to accompany it 'Israel has a right to defend herself' that is universally used to censor any debate that attributes the cause of the ongoing conflict to the actions of both sides now, both sides in the past and ultimately both sides in the future.
The requirement frames the debate immediately, and there was enough of that going on from the very first post.
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Hang on have the Israelis killed more children in seven days than Russia have in eighteen months? Dear god. By their own admission they've only just gotten started.
I've definitely condemned Russian activity and underlined the need for a peaceful solution so no particular concern on this front. I'm equally not a politician acting as some kind of moral arbiter of which military causes are just and which are not.
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Your prevarications and talking around the points raised remind me of some friends of mine who were in the CPGB in the mid-80s - you have been vehement in this thread about why people should be condemning (quite rightly) the injuring and killing of innocent children, but you haven’t said a word in the Ukraine thread about the same actions carried out by the Russians, and your definition of a "peaceful" solution in Ukraine is letting the Russians keep all the territory they’ve invaded in this conflict and in 2014, allowing them to rebuild their military capabilities and do the same thing again.
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