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Old 10-10-2023, 23:11   #132
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
That’s quite simple. Is a baby dying via an air strike or being beheaded any different, it’s still a dead baby right? Yes, it is ****ing different and if you can’t work out the difference you’re not right in the head
I had thought we could have a rational debate but was wrong. If you are making this distinction, let's leave this here.

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I think it’s fair to say that humans will lie, steal and kill in pursuit of their interests. Their interests could be food, property or a belief system around which their society is organised. That could be a religious belief system, but Joseph Stalin is likely to have killed more than any other and he was following an avowedly atheistic philosophy. The common denominator isn’t religion, it’s humans.
You are dancing around the problem here. The underpinning of the immoral behaviour on both sides is their respective religions. This really is just fact. No ifs or buts. You can try and build a straw man that these two protagonists would behave the same without their respective faiths but this would be just denial.

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Interesting:

https://twitter.com/lisang/status/1711824708746838214

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The Israeli media now confirming that the gov't did receive clear warnings from Egyptian intelligence about the imminent attack that occurred on October 7. The PM's office initially issued a flat denial after the first report, but then did an about face and admitted it.
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