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Old 10-10-2023, 11:40   #109
jfman
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
No, it's just a comment from me, If they did that I would expect Israel to ceasefire, as Israel is not a blood thirsty country that likes to kill innocents for fun.

You don't know that as much as don't know that. But at least you have acknowledged that Hamas value their own lives over the lives of the innocents they use as a shield.

The blood is already on Hamas's hands when they started this attack. Israeli retribution was inevitable, and probably the outcome they wanted anyway.

With Saudi Arabia, potentially, mulling over the Abraham Accords, if they had of signed up that would've been a major blow. There's no way they'll go anywhere near it now. Job done for Hamas, only cost a few thousand lives. Blood well spent.
In all conflicts people value their own lives over those of their enemy - that's equally true of nation states as it is for non-state actors. As missiles rain down on Gaza killing scores of civilians it's preposterous to suggest this is an area where Israel hold the moral high ground.

Fundamentally Pierre you are stuck unable to view the conflict through any other prism than where Israel are on the right side and the Palestinians the wrong side. Your view is that only state actors have a legitimate pursuit of armed conflict - and indeed that they can ignore their obligations under international law when doing so. No amount of circuitous arguing (or Israeli war crimes) will convince you otherwise.

"They started it" might be a defence in a school playground but it absolutely does not remove Israel of it's obligations as an occupying force in Gaza.

Last edited by jfman; 10-10-2023 at 11:47.
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