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**Paul** · 06-10-2023, 01:12

No challange system can stop the older friend, or the black market that will inevitably spring up.

Not everyone has photo ids, they are not compulsory (yet) and these days less young people can afford to learn to drive, or have need of a passport.

Challange 25 is a load of nonsense anyway, why is someone who turned 18 over 6 years previously still having to prove they are over 18, if they look 18+ that should be good enough, not 30%+ of their lifetime later. It particularly pissed me off in the summer 3 years ago (while out for a meal & drink) when my oldest daughter got asked - she was actually 28 by then ... seriously, twenty frigging eight, she quite clearly did not look under 18. She did not have any ID on her. After we finished I made it [very] clear to the manager that it was not acceptable, and we would never go back (and we never have).

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Paul Dr Pepper Addict Cable Forum Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Nottingham Age: 62 Services: Aquiss FTTP (900M), Sky Q TV, Sky Mobile, Flextel SIP Posts: 29,791	Re: The Chronicles of Rishi No challange system can stop the older friend, or the black market that will inevitably spring up. Not everyone has photo ids, they are not compulsory (yet) and these days less young people can afford to learn to drive, or have need of a passport. Challange 25 is a load of nonsense anyway, why is someone who turned 18 over 6 years previously still having to prove they are over 18, if they look 18+ that should be good enough, not 30%+ of their lifetime later. It particularly pissed me off in the summer 3 years ago (while out for a meal & drink) when my oldest daughter got asked - she was actually 28 by then ... seriously, twenty frigging eight, she quite clearly did not look under 18. She did not have any ID on her. After we finished I made it [very] clear to the manager that it was not acceptable, and we would never go back (and we never have). __________________ Baby, I was born this way.