Thread: 20mph is just the start.
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:47   #95
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Re: 20mph is just the start.
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Originally Posted by spiderplant View Post
The congestion near schools is not caused by the speed limits. It's caused by parents driving their kids to school because of the perception that it isn't safe to walk or cycle. If a 20mph limit changes that perception, fewer people will drive, and it'll become safer and less congested. Win-win.


Wales does not have a blanket 20mph limit. They have simply changed the default. If local authorities want to apply a 30mph limit to a road, they can, just like they could previously apply 20mph where appropriate.

As it happens, the residential roads in my area have had 20mph limits for years. It's a non-event. It makes no significant difference to journey times because those roads are only a small proportion of a typical journey, and I have no difficulty crossing the road(!)
The anti-car brigade think that by making life difficult for motorists, they will abandon their cars, but the evidence doesn’t support that. The lack of parking spaces and other measures being introduced just result in the roads being more congested. That’s what we have found around here.

As I said, it’s the blanket imposition of the 20mph that is wrong. Put it where it’s needed, yes, but not all the residential roads. There is no case for that justifying such an extreme measure.

One useful suggestion that jfman has made is to have more pedestrian crossings. That is likely to be a much more acceptable solution for most people and would improve road safety.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Can you source a post where you actually said that at the time?
Maybe not in a post, but I have been against the proliferation of 20mph limits and speed humps for many years. The Welsh solution, which other local authorities seem to be dribbling with great enthusiasm to implement themselves, is a stretch too far.

Can you source a previous post on here where you were in support of the Welsh government introducing this measure before this thread was started? It doesn’t really matter whether you can or can’t. The forum is a place to express your views.
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