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Originally Posted by Chris
It’s interesting to see a real-world example of just how ideologically captured certain sections of the British Left have become by Russia’s information ops. Ironic that in the US it’s the hard right that exhibits these symptoms. I’m sure there’s a political science PhD study in there somewhere.
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There's probably a more interesting one in armchair war experts willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Ukranians in a military experiment from the safety of their own sofa.
People who disagree with you haven't been "captured" by information ops if what they actually say is true. Its no more credible to claim them to have been captured by propaganda than the "fight for every inch" brigade who are wilfully ignoring that very few border disputes ever resolve themselves with one, larger, force being fully repelled. At some point the human and financial cost of doing so creates diminishing returns. However, it's a much easier judgement to make when it's not your own blood.
At least we are all agreed there's no democratic mechanism for Ukranian people to remove Zelensky if they decided negotiating a peace agreement was a better strategy than throwing more meat into the grinder.