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Originally Posted by Chris
But the perceived politics of one party is not a suitable baseline to start from (even assuming it’s true - and given that the NHS has been under Tory control for most of its existence, and about 30 of the last 44 years since 1979, if they really are trying to actually destroy it, they’ve been about as effective as Wile E. Coyote).
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They can't just shut it down however much they'd like to as they'd never get in office again, no far better to inherit something that had very high levels of public satisfaction and run it down by starving it of money and making it an unpleasant place to work so the staff leave, how inconsiderate of the public not to fall for it and demand private health care
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The point is, the welfare state introduced by the Attlee government (1945-1951) fundamentally changed the demands placed on whoever has been in power ever since, while at the same time the UK, Europe and the world began to come to terms with the massive economic and social restructuring demanded by the end of world war 2. Both parties have shown differing political priorities since then, but that is when the modern rules of the game were set, and that is why serious academic treatment of ‘modern era’ British government and politics starts with 1945, not friendly but ultimately quite arbitrary figures like ‘50 years’.
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We're not academics though but interestingly if you type
when did the modern era of British politics begin Wikipedia says 1979

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Originally Posted by Russ
So doesn’t that mean the past 13 years have been a “dictatorship” too?
Why would I want this? Easy, to punish the current shower of shit for the years of lies, corruptions and dishonesty that they don’t even bother hiding anymore. The contempt they have for the working classes like you and I. They way they’ve decimated funding for the NHS then blamed it on immigrant and striking staff. Speak of which, they way they’ve removed workers’ democratic right to strike and reduce our right to protest. They way they want to removed the ECHR. The way they’ve consistent broken international law. They way they’ve placed “stopping the boats” as their priority when we have a cost of living crisis. The way they have constantly lied about the “benefits” of Brexit. The damn stupid “oven ready deal” lie. Wage stagnation which for many puts us on equal earning terms from
2008.
Unless you’re a millionaire the last 13 years have not turned out well for anyone either.
I could go on and on but I need my breakfast. There are plenty of reasons why the **** Party need to be kept out of office for many years.
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Exactly