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Old 11-08-2023, 17:02   #5462
jfman
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
I have had plenty of experience in advising managers how to comply with employment legislation while remaining solvent, and the legislative burdens on businesses are pretty clear when you actually see the implications by dealing with real problems.

Honestly, jfman, this point about bureaucracy and how it drags down industry are plain to see. You don’t have to be doing it yourself to see how EU bureaucracy impacts businesses negatively unless you are walking around with eyes closed.
Ah yes, advising from the sidelines how to steamroller workers rights in the name of extracting further profits. Not actually running a business yourself.

Much like your climate change denial approach - there’s been an ice age more than once it can’t possibly be human - how do you explain the many successful companies that operate within the parameters of the EU, often steamrollering their British counterparts in the global markets?

Failed by Government(s) perhaps?

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you employ staff who are also sometimes caring for people who may need it overnight, the practice used to be that at those times you could actually sleep, but if you had to wake up to deal with a problem, you’d be expected to deal with it. For that, you would be paid an allowance plus an hourly rate for the hours you were dealing with the emergency. This arrangement worked perfectly well until the Working Time nonsense came in and employers were faced with claims that we had to pay the hourly rate at overtime rates for the whole night while on ‘waking duties’.
Sleep in your workplace and only be paid if you are required to wake up.

If that’s the kind of exploitative working practice the EU directive prevents then I wholeheartedly support it.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Another example - where manual workers signed up for emergency call-outs (for example, to clear snow on the roads) led to all sorts of problems with the additional hours worked on those days and nights, and also the costs involved compared with before.
Scandalous. Manual workers getting overtime.

Life outside the EU sounds like a South Sudan sweat shop more than sunlit uplands.

Last edited by jfman; 11-08-2023 at 18:01.
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