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Old 30-07-2023, 14:32   #2583
jfman
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
That Ukraine depends on American support doesn't mean they didn't enter this war, i.e decide to defend themselves from Russian invasion, of their own volition.

I don't know why you're always so keen to defend Russia and admonish Ukraine for their audacity to fight back against the country that invaded them and is killing them.
I’m not sure I’ve ever admonished Ukraine for defending itself. I don’t think I’ve ever defended Russian actions either.

I don’t think it’s fair to consider my view that there’s greater complexity than the romantic view of Ukrainian men fighting to the death in a conscript army in that way. I don’t think it’s fair to mislead them if the USA will eventually pull the rug from under them.

As Seph points out above if the best hope is for a coup then I’m not convinced demonising Russians wherever they are in the world benefits the domestic opposition to Putin.

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