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Old 23-07-2023, 16:54   #5347
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Left wing is apparently a massive spectrum between thinking we shouldn’t pay companies that offshore billions in profits while they plough human excrement into our waterways all the way to the complete removal of all private property rights. It’s pure fantasy to present it as almost one single monolithic entity - although it suits those on the right to remove all the nuance around it to scaremonger.

The idea you could walk and be at your butcher, baker, grocer and GP within 15 minutes get pilloried as a global conspiracy to control everyone’s lives.
The ‘left’ is indeed a large spectrum and we all understand what that spectrum is. As you move rightwards along that spectrum you reach a sort of middle ground that you might ascribe to the ‘leftist’ elements of the Conservative Party and its support for capitalism. As you move to the ‘right’, it becomes less defined. For example, the National Socialists: Extreme Right or what? Franco: Extreme Right or what? Moseley, Extreme Right, or what? What then is the ‘right wing’? Extreme Right?

So when the term ‘right wing’ is applied to argument here, where on the spectrum are the argues landing?

Seems to me that Leavers and Conservatives are being branded as ‘right wing’ without any form of definition by them.




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Btw, John,

You of all members understand the need for logic and definition.

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