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Originally Posted by Pierre
Russia is not going to win their objective, similarly Ukraine seems unlikely to be able to repel Russia. This is just going to continue to cost money and lives.
Interestingly, Trump was interviewed recently. He famously said, previously, that he would stop this war in 24hrs.
He was asked how he would do this. I’m paraphrasing but it was basically this:
I know Zelenskyy and I know Putin even better. They need to stop fighting and talk.
I would say to Zelenskyy, you either talk or we will remove all support.
I would say to Putin, you either talk or I will give Zelenskyy everything he needs and more.
Seems, reasonable to me.
I know the stance has been total victory for Ukraine, return to pre-2014 borders, which has never been realistic.
The realistic solution is a win for both sides. Russia gets territory, to be negotiated.
In return for that, Ukraine gets NATO membership.
Russia sells the Win of re-Russianing the territory they get.
Ukraine gets the win of this not ever happening again, as a NATO member.
Trump at least has a plan that doesn’t involve Cluster Bombs. Perhaps others may consider it.
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If things continue as they are, Ukraine will regain its former territory and eventually get NATO and EU membership.
If the two sides don't agree in 24 hours/240 days what next? Trump would look foolish for over-promising so may try and force Ukraine to yield as he has more influence over Ukraine than Russia.