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Old 28-03-2023, 23:57   #4970
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
You've lost the argument here and are now trying to hide behind other examples of changes ,to food standards.

You were so absolutely sure that the "watered down" UK food standards were the cause of honey exported to the EU from the UK being adulterated.

That's been proved wrong and in your embarrassment and arrogance, you're pivoting on other changes that have nothing to do with the hiney thing on which you were so strident.

However, a separate debate on food standards wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
WTF are you talking about? You have proved nothing. You have totally lost it. The articles I cited stated that 100% of honey imported from the UK is adulterated with cheap sugar syrup, against EU regulations.

From: https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...henticity-test

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The report last Thursday by the JRC said honey imported from the UK had a suspicion rate of 100% and “this could be the result of honey produced in other countries and further processed in the UK before its re-export to the EU”.
If you literally cannot read then what hope is there trying to explain things to you.

---------- Post added at 23:57 ---------- Previous post was at 23:42 ----------

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Given that our ability to set our own standards was one of the benefits of Brexit for many of us who voted for it, I think it’s fair to say this isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

The whole point of repatriating these powers is that we can decide what works for us and our producers and consumers, rather than the lobbying of major corporate interests that often lurk behind the ‘safety’ decisions taken by the EU. And if we decide HMG has got it wrong, we can vote accordingly. Any vote for an MEP is so hopelessly diluted by the sheer size of the Strasbourg assembly it was never more than a fig leaf for the undemocratic nature of the beast.
Of course, for those who were voting for the pure Brexit where the tenets of faith were to be achieved at any cost, that is all well & good. However that is not what was sold. The goal of deregulation at the expense of the consumer with no retention of standards may be what you desire but the nation was sold the opposite. The nation was sold and promised sunlit uplands. It was not sold 4% loss in GBP, shit in the rivers, loss of NHS staff, and so on, and so on.

Yet when people point out the scale of the con carried out upon the nation, either it isn't happening or it is, but it's fine as this is the religion we now "subscribe" to. Also, yet again, you trot out "oh we can vote them out if we don't like it" BS. We can't "vote out" the damage done to this country, the systemic damage across all sectors and the broken country.

It is the disingenuity that I despise the most. The lack of honesty and the attempt to gaslight people into pretending there is no damage and even if there was, it was clearly pointed out, by Vote leave, as what was going to happen.
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