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Originally Posted by Chris
It actually isn’t, and your analogy is deeply flawed. If you believe you’re at risk of serious harm by staying put, and unfolding events show that risk is increasing, the potential benefits of running away begin to outweigh the risks of it.
This issue simply can’t be reduced to a comparison with an unlocked car, by which you demonstrate an almost comical lack of understanding of race relations in the USA.
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The only risk there was at the time of the stop was past happenings in America which no doubt is a extremely small percentage considering the amount of stops they do. At that point of been pulled from the car and been told to lay on the floor, he failed to comply. At no point was there risk to his life shown other than again a small percentage of past happenings.
I'm not comparing the issue to a locked car, I'm comparing victim blaming to a locked car.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
It actually isn’t, and your analogy is deeply flawed. If you believe you’re at risk of serious harm by staying put, and unfolding events show that risk is increasing, the potential benefits of running away begin to outweigh the risks of it.
This issue simply can’t be reduced to a comparison with an unlocked car, by which you demonstrate an almost comical lack of understanding of race relations in the USA.
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As a white man I’m hardly being racist critiquing the attitudes I observe within my own community. 
And yes, I’m pretty sure you’re also a white man. Please don’t try to get me to back down with weak insinuations - if you’re something other than ethnically white just say so and I’ll retract my comments.
The relevant statistic here is that black men are twice as likely to die at the hands of the police as white men in the USA. And the relevant fact from this specific incident was that he was *already*being*harmed* by his compliance. Unless you think a taser up the arse while someone yells in your face telling you to do what you’re already doing doesn’t constitute ‘harm’. |
What's the fact your a white man got to do with anything? You directly quoted my post with the quote "spoken like a white man", not knowing the colour of my skin, simply because I have a difference of opinion. The very fact you'll retract your comment if it turns out I am black speaks volumes about the comment itself.
That's not the relevant statistic at all. The relevant statistic should be at what percentage are black men beaten by Police. Just because they are twice as likely to die at the hands of the Police (which we all know is a problem which shouldn't happen) doesn't mean he was at a high risk of dying at the hands of the Police. You could go even further and break down how many black men are killed by Police that are white and that are black.
I don't disagree there is a problem in the USA, but that wasn't my point.