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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
He had already been subject to significant abuse by the police BEFORE he ran off.
Right from the start the officers in question acted in an unprofessional manner and did not execute their duties in the manner expected this then deteriorated and deteriorated until the outcome.
There was no attempt at the use of reasonable force. There was nothing that the victim could of done that would have pacified them, they were in prey mode and looking for a target.
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The initial treatment he received before he ran suggests to everybody and everything apart from lobotomised plankton that he was at significant risk of severe physical harm.
It's called fight or flight
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Had he? You see that everyday in the Police, it looks horrible, sounds horrible, but it's done in a manner to shock the person they want to arrest, dragging them from the car, shouting at them, getting them on the floor in an aggressive manner, you can watch it on the Police shows like Police interceptors. At that point he was resisting and kept turning around of the floor talking to them disobeying the orders.
Considering the above, I'm not sure he thought he was at significant risk 100% is a excuse for running. I'm not saying it didn't play a part but as it happens all the time, the percentage risk of him being harmed if he complied would be pretty low, with running adding to that risk.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
He ran off because it obviously wasn't going to end well if he stayed.
Would you have remained there knowing you could easily get beaten to death? Or could stand a chance of saving your life by fleeing?
This is not Dixon of Dock Green territory.
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Where is the evidence to say that the pulled him over to seriously harm him? Running away from the Police is never going to end well in any circumstances, never mind in America where they have guns.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
You mean unlike the previous occurrences where people were beaten to death or shot by US Police when they were unarmed?
The relevant point is that the police shouldn’t beat someone to death, whether they run away or not - there is no mitigation on their behalf because someone ran away, or any blame allocated to the dead person because they ran away; trying to do so is ingenuous.
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What percentage risk are you at due to previous occurrences over everyday Policing that never gets reported?
I don’t disagree, never have disagreed. But we all need to take responsibility for our actions.