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Originally Posted by ianch99
It is only a [serious] argument if you can provide authoritative, peer reviewed evidence that shows, beyond reasonable doubt, that Covid is less dangerous than the vaccine for the age/risk group you are focussing on. I see no evidence seriously being debated & concluded in the public domain.
Don't forget, repeat serious infection from Covid, infections that are mitigated by vaccines, risk Long Covid which can include long term degradation of your immune system with all the consequences that entails.
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But researching something and publishing it takes time to build up the evidence, get enough examples and stuff for it to be done, then write it all up - peer reviewing means after it's published then other research groups studying similar examine it and see if there are other findings or not.
This process usually takes a lot longer than we have had covid vaccines as science generally doesn't move that quickly. In some cases such as the longer side effects of either vaccination or infection the evidence isn't even there yet. It can take years for an article to be published in a journal and then even longer for peer review of this research to take place. We have had covid vaccines for little over two years.
As for discussing it in an open forum - well, they keep to their journals. Popping things on twitter doesn't really count, a lot of the time this stuff is echo chamber or abuse where if anyone suggests the vaccines might be bad they get jumped on by multiple accounts abusing them, calling them an anti-vaxxer, or a covidiot, or something else even if they actually have evidence. And you get the other side too where people encouraging the vaccine uptake get abused. We see the same on even places like this when there's a spike and the usual people want to start everyone wearing masks again or social distancing and there's others saying why because it doesn't really stop anything... when you're on about views not facts it is important to respect others. Even some people on SM have been banned for "spreading misinformation" when they simply are questioning the official line... That environment isn't conducive to sensible debate.
And we don't know how severe the link is or how the link is going to work long term with vaccines and any side effects, whether these are milder than covid or not...