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					Originally Posted by  cheekyangus
					 
				 
				Sky Arts SD is FTA on Freeview and Freesat so I'm not surprised it's sticking around for now. 
 
In Scotland 113 has been empty since STV HD moved to 103. BBC3 has to be in Top 24 slots so I'm expecting it to take 113 in Scotland (and Wales maybe, depending on how their EPG lineup is). 
			
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 Funnily enough, I had just made the same point about 113 on DS and  maybe something could be done about the slot sharing arrangement for BBC  Alba / ITV Be +1. STV SD was removed a long time ago though, so why wasn't BBC 3 moved earlier?
The  Sky Arts situation is more about what isn't being disclosed on the  discovery bar info. I get that Sky won't want the Mixit / M / Player  version in HD but I can't see it staying in SD for users on levels in  between. Sky Arts was originally in the Documentaries personal pick so  the HD version could be made available to anyone with that. Probably  better to put it in the Entertainment+ Tier though as the SD version is  already available to basic level users. Same with Sky News HD, although  there are no details at all of what will happen there. It will be interesting to see which subscription tiers the Sky channels fall into after the change.
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					Originally Posted by  Itshim
					 
				 
				wondering if I and perhaps Mr k are misreading what's happening looking at EPG SD channels are still available on Tuesday and Wednesday . Just  hd moved around  or is the EPG behind still ? 
			
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 A lot of SD channels with dual illumination (i.e. also available in HD) will be removed with the HD channels shuffled up to fill the gaps. I guess the HD channels will also have to change to the subscription packs used by the SD channels being removed or there will be a lot of phone calls from disgruntled customers.