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Originally Posted by Damien
Because we've underfunded it for years compared to other similar countries: https://www.ft.com/content/f752a1ad-...9-4909974c6a2c
It's not a surprise that with that underinvestment we're also seeing much longer waiting lists since 2010: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60305502
And again this started before COVID hit. COVID made it worse for sure both the virus itself and the subsequent delayed treatment from the year lost but when you run a health service that can't meet the demand it already had, there is no capacity at all to deal with a crisis.
Look at that BBC article about cancer waiting times. The number of people urgently seen for cancer has dropped from 90% in 2010 to 80% by 2017 and now 70%!
The NHS has got measurably worse. I don't know why we're just accepting such declines. |
Is that "spending" or "funding"?
other countries may well "spend" more, but it is not all "funded" by taxation. like the nhs is.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
You might mean something like France or Germany but who are the tories inviting to get involved with our healthcare, American companies...
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of course you plenty of examples
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Originally Posted by Damien
Yeah, it needs to be both. The NHS might well need reform and we can look to France or Germany as a reference point but if we're spending 20% less than France then we're not going to get their levels of care.
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You need to bottom out the spending /funding definition. France and Germany may spend more because they have some sort insurance element to fund it as well as from taxation.
The USA spends loads on health care but funds little of it from taxation, everybody needs some sort of insurance. (generally, there is help for some people).