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Old 24-12-2022, 12:48   #2265
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
Where did I do that?
I have repeatedly stated that I have no liking for the man. I'm sorry if I have come across as what you say. It was not my intention.
I have also already stated that the invasion was wrong.

The reason I posted what I did was to point out that before the invasion Ukraine was the second most corrupt nation in Europe and Zelensky was in charge of it. The fact that they've been invaded wouldn't have changed all that. Probably made the corruption worse if anything.
One of the issues is that you claim the two countries to be as bad as each other.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
I'm not offering an equivocation ("an ambiguous or deliberately evasive statement"). I'm saying that they are both ( The Ukraine with the USAs help) pretty much as bad as each other.
Do you not agree that one country which invades another country illegally makes that country worse than the country being invaded? The fact that both Ukraine and Russia suffer from corruption does not alter this fundamental fact. It's just a red herring that even Putin would blush at using.

In terms of time lines, it's worth reminding ourselves that the first invasion of Ukraine was in 2014 and Zelensky became President five years after that.
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