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Old 24-12-2022, 12:46   #2264
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
Where did I do that?
I have repeatedly stated that I have no liking for the man. I'm sorry if I have come across as what you say. It was not my intention.
I have also already stated that the invasion was wrong.

The reason I posted what I did was to point out that before the invasion Ukraine was the second most corrupt nation in Europe and Zelensky was in charge of it. The fact that they've been invaded wouldn't have changed all that. Probably made the corruption worse if anything.
I never said you liked him. I said that in legitimising the claim of provocation you lessen the seriousness of his crimes. He is not a 19th century emperor, he leads a senior member of the United Nations in the 21st century. ‘Provocation’ is not mitigation here.

The observation that Ukraine was, and remains, a deeply troubled society is totally irrelevant to the starting, continuing and the ending of the war and, again, has no relevance beyond reducing perceptions of the country’s moral agency. These observations are being promulgated by Russian propagandists precisely because they trigger MAGA Republicans in ways designed to lessen American support for Ukraine. I strongly suspect that your favoured internet sources are the ones that have been targeted by Russians in this way.
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