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Old 23-12-2022, 23:27   #2258
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
I agree. However NATO pressed forward since the fall of the Iron Curtain, despite promising not to do so. Russia is not innocent (obviously) but they were provoked. It's a shitty situation.
That's paraphrasing Putin's argument.

Even if it were true, which it is not, as shown below, it would be no justification for Russia to invade Ukraine.

Here are some articles confirming the eastward expansion promise myth is precisely that:
https://theconversation.com/ukraine-...he-east-177085
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...reement-again/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-matters-today

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Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
I'm not offering an equivocation ("an ambiguous or deliberately evasive statement"). I'm saying that they are both ( The Ukraine with the USAs help) pretty much as bad as each other. And civilians, as usual, are suffering.
You can't honestly believe that one country invading another's territory and murdering and torturing that country's citizens and deliberately damaging its infrastructure makes it as bad as the country it is invading?
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