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Originally Posted by ianch99

It is a serious point. You focus on the EU yet accept, tolerate and endorse the corruption in the very Party you belong to. I think this says it all.

The EU is corrupt as any large Governmental body is, no more. You seem happy to accept an unelected Chamber as part of our Legislature, stuffed with political cronies and then say, with the same breath, that the EU is "corrupt and undemocratic".

You focus on the EU yet accept, tolerate and endorse the corruption in the very Party you belong to. I think this says it all.

Quite the opposite. In my posts, I have explicitly denounced any corruption in the UK. In fact, you've been quite insulting towards me.

The EU is corrupt as any large Governmental body is, no more.

What - your darling EU corrupt?

You seem happy to accept an unelected Chamber as part of our Legislature, stuffed with political cronies and then say, with the same breath, that the EU is "corrupt and undemocratic".

Did I say or hint any of that? Btw, an elected upper chamber needs very careful thought so as not to cripple government legislation. The public would play games art election time, I suspect.



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Originally Posted by Ms NTL

My post was ironic - just a joke. Please ignore it.

Arabs do business in a different way than us. The oil states have no tax and they have Sharia law.

You lot will shred me into pieces as I know very little about either.

Arab oil states pay cash or Western Union with a pin. That's their way of doing things.

Now I sound like the VP of EU.

Santander payed 108m fine for money laundering last week. Details NONE. But I understand how they have done it. Our way....

And yes, the oil states can disperse cash via their embassies freely, that's their way, and under the sharia law . No interest is charged.

Who is corrupt? .......and what is really the law?

Well - what to say?

Qatar et al expect us to behave in accordance with their laws when we're there. Surely we should expect reciprocity.

But brown envelopes, so to speak, stuffed with cash so as to steer EU policy towards Qatar or wherever is wrong by any standards, and Qatar knows this.