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Old 19-11-2022, 18:59   #2150
jfman
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
20 years of dedicated GRU information ops really have helped condition the wider battle space in Putin’s favour. Or parts of it anyway.
You say this as if the CIA haven't done the same for 50 years. The silence on this thread when it was revealed it was a Ukrainian missile, in contrast to the frothing at the mouth of the previous 24 hours, spoke volumes.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Must be a real dilemma for you - who not to believe less, the USA or Zelensky…
When their interests diverge I'd reluctantly pick the USA. The comedian clearly isn't a trustworthy ally, indeed perhaps not an ally at all just a useful fall guy.

The USA for their faults are an ally with a mutual interest in not starting World War 3 for a small amount of already disputed land at the Russia/Ukraine border.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss View Post
I still think there is a chance it was an attempt at escalation and Zelensky knew about it all along. He can not be trusted I tell ya
Well, it's more likely than it actually being a Russian missile I'll give it that.
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