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Old 07-11-2022, 23:36   #2038
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
Worth a listen, especially as it highlights the narrative that anyone suggesting peace via negotiation ( is there usually any other way?) is labelled a Putin apologist, when in the past they would just be a pacifist.
It's when people make disingenuous calls for negotiations whilst trying to give Russia a stronger hand that are apologists. People like Corbyn or the Republicans want to stop arming Ukraine and force them to the table.

Negotiations on Ukraine's terms are fine.

Alternatively, Russia leaves Ukraine. That's all they want, to not be invaded. This isn't some disputed land that has acted as a buffer between the states, it isn't a dispute over unclaimed land either. It's a sovereign nation being invaded by an imperialist state who are now losing and are getting its friends in the West to try and force Ukraine to stop.
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