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Originally Posted by Damien
What's a 'total win'? I think it's possible Ukraine will get back the land lost this year. At that point then either something gives or, maybe, it becomes a frozen conflict with Russia still claiming that land but Ukraine and the international community operating as it being Ukrainian.
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As I say, read the exchange between myself and Chris. A “total win” for Ukraine is pre- 2014 borders. i.e. Crimea.
I don’t think Ukraine, on their own, can take back all the territory taken by Russia in this offensive, let alone Crimea.
So, I say again, if only repelling Russia from all of Ukraine is acceptable. I.e. no negotiation at all, total removal of Russia only.
And Ukraine are incapable of achieving that, what happens?
Just keep the destruction and death, ticking over.
Your suggestion of a “frozen conflict” is not a cessation of war. Unless you mean an agreement is reached, or at least acknowledged, which is what I have suggested. A negotiated peace.