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Old 10-10-2022, 16:13   #896
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Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
So, it's OK for those who have worked their socks off to improve their lives to keep having to pay more and more because you don't want to target those who are fully capable of working yet choose to abuse the system?

Taking your use of the word 'poorest' There's a major difference between those who are poor through no fault of their own and should be given every piece of help available to live as full as life as possible. Compared to those who you would class as poor but are so due to the fact that despite them being 100% able to work and contribute to society, they instead decide they can't be bothered and instead abuse an already pressurised system.
I didn’t say I thought it was “okay” I merely said I wouldn’t link the uprating of benefits with the ability of Government departments or agencies to identify and root out these people.

I agree, there’s a massive difference between those who need and those who exploit the system. However as I said above it’s extremely small beer against all Government expenditure on benefits, the tax gap, or even just the monthly interest payments on our £3 trillion of debt.

If you want to attack poor people (including the working poor on Universal Credit) this is the best way to do it. If you want to target and root out people who exploit the system this isn’t. They’ll continue to exploit it regardless.
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