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Originally Posted by jfman
They aren’t linked but you want to punish some of the poorest people in society simply because some are taking advantage (and as Richard correctly pointed out breaking the law). Those in group 2 will simply engage in more side hustle.
Benefits (and pensions) in the UK are already among the lowest in the G20 and the supposedly “advanced” economies.
DWP estimates fraud and error to be around £8bn a year. HMRC on the other hand measure the tax gap at £32bn. Interest payments on the UK debt is £90bn and getting more expensive. If you think anything will be solved by punishing the vast majority of honest benefit claimants to get a few who are gaming the system then you are mistaken. It’s extremely small beer, but a good right wing trope to demonise the poor.
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Where did i say that i wanted to punish them? Again, you're overreaching.
People in group 1 should be given all the help needed to live as full as life as possible. I've categorically stated this multiple times whilst being a member on here.
IF we could somehow figure out how to get group 2 out of the benefits system that they're not entitled to, then in theory that money would be able to be used to improve the lives of those in group 1 ?
it APPEARS that you can't make progress with group 2 without imposing those in group 1.
If we' are in such a shit state financially then we have to go after avery single option, ALL of them. Tax, benefits, the lot.