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Originally Posted by jfman
Precisely, a clever deflection from OB.
Some people vote Conservative in good faith. And to a varying degree a significant number of those have wobbled over the last few months. They may well continue to vote Conservative or they may not. However they are demonstrably engaging with reality.
Three different users have either lost faith, considered the role of the state in energy and a wealth tax. Now they might not fall on the side of the fence, but they’re engaging with the debate and can see that the status quo is demonstrably not working. Away from OB’s perverse tribal politics, that’s what the rest of us consider a healthy dialogue.
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I do try to engage with these debates, but you are interested only in personal insults.
There are two sides to this particular crisis, and you only want to debate the alternative view. Truss is attempting to break down the established group think, and this is naturally causing a huge amount of opposition. She is keeping things pretty close to her chest at the moment - I suspect she will pack in a few surprises at her Conference early next week.
She has a plan, and the markets will calm down when she presents it - her way.
You seem to forget that only a few weeks ago the Leader of the Opposition was demanding that people got to know where they stood with fuel bills. Well, now they know (although I don’t think it has sunk in yet with many people that things won’t be so bad after all, despite the hype), but the upshot of that is, the full detail of how it will be paid for is not quite finalised, which is why they have resisted the OBR at this stage.
The hysterical reaction we have seen is bordering on mass mental instability, and is mostly due to nervousness over Putin’s attempts to destabilise the West. Truss and Kwarteng must keep their heads while everyone around them are losing theirs.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Not sure you are a Mod yet 
jfman was talking about you and not all Tory voters so please, let's keep this honest.
I understand that Truss has let you down and you have no position from which to build an argument. The "let's wait and see" approach is just "head in the sand" economics - the real world does not work like this. Peoples' homes & livelihoods are on the line. |
I am not a mod, and I was merely pointing out that were going off topic before a mod intervened.
jfman I know was referring to me, but I was pointing out his general attitude, which he betrays post after post.
Truss has not let me down. She will shake things up and show she is not going to be pushed around by anyone.