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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
People get re-infected as the virus mutates, so attaining herd immunity is a problem. A number of people including your glorious leader have caught Covid on multiple occasions. That hardly speaks to immunity, herd or otherwise, does it?
As Seph has mentioned, the efficacy rates in the Chinese vaccines are the issue in that country.
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It depends what you think ‘herd immunity’ means.
It doesn’t mean total immunity, it means resistance to the spread of the disease. There’s no doubt the the vaccination programme has achieved that.
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
indeed, but the % of the herd that survives depends on the efficacy of both the vaccines & antibody response IF we have a variant that can escape both and causes the same degree of severe illness and is as transmissible as the 'first wave' then we're pretty much back to square one.
very initial studies show that the newer variants appear to match three out of four conditions above.
It's therefore not inconceivable that there comes a time when all four conditions are met. At which point we are.......?
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Getting our booster vaccines that incorporate the latest variants.
It’s not the end of the world yet.
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
China has illustrated that even with the most draconian lockdowns, only possible in a totalitaran state, that the virus mearly goes into abeyance until the lockdown is released.
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Absolutely agreed. I’ve been saying this from the get-go. It was clear very early on that lockdowns only delayed the spread of the virus, but for some reason I can’t fathom, some people scoffed at this at the time.