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It proves nothing of the sort. Brexit isn’t a result on lies, remember there was LIES on both sides of the fence, both weighted to gain extra votes, so each other’s lies cancelling each other’s out. If here had been just the one Democratic exercise, the Brexit vote itself, you could have a valid point. However, several Democratic exercises later, the last, 3 years ago, giving the party that said it would get Brexit done, largest majority in a long time. None of the Anti-Brexit MPs who left Tory/Labour party prior to GE in 2019, kept their seats. Liberal Democrats who said they’d reverse Brexit, lost their leader, if the country really really wanted to stop Brexit, why didn’t every Liberal Democrat candidate, in most seats win?
We need to stop repeating the “lies” tropes. Brexit vote was legitimate.
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Been having a look at my posting history and I've been pretty consistent throughout about holding people accountable for what they've said and why I think it's so important to do so
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I think this referendum campaign is possibly the worst display I've ever seen from our politicians, even worse than new labour new danger, it was the worse kind of lies, fear mongering and pure ignorance I've ever seen displayed. How anyone could be pleased or proud to have been part of either campaign is beyond me and sadly this could well be the politics of the future, I'd rather go back to punch and Judy.
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That's the question right there for me, do we want future elections fought like that one?
Plus there is this one from mid 2012 which surprised me so much I thought I'd share, didn't think I was still a kipper back then tbh and iirc it's after call me dave gave his guarantee for the referendum
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They'll be getting my vote again, if they could find a few issues that turn them from a single issue campaign group and into a proper party in voters eyes they'll do very well.
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