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Originally Posted by Damien
It's Ukraine's choice to fight.
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But not a choice for the men of fighting age being held hostage while their partners and children flee.
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Their concern isn't that America is funding them but they're not funding them enough.
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Of course if America didn't fund them at all, the threshold for a ceasefire or peace agreement would move.
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The ultimate conclusion of your argument is America should stop funding Ukraine so they're forced to surrender on Russian terms and you're trying to portray this as a position of concern.
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The ultimate conclusion of my argument is there will be hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dead and permanently displaced Ukranians who fought further (and for longer) on the basis of Western promises that likely won't be fulfilled longer term.
Something as frivolous as US gasoline prices at the mid-terms for example could result in them being leaned on to make an agreement that was absolutely achievable 70 days ago.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'portraying' concern. My concern for Ukrainians is absolute - however war is rarely a zero sum game. While it might suit some armchair generals out there to watch this play out to apply what they see to hypothetical future combat scenarios that doesn't suit me in the slightest. It's not a price to pay in Ukrainian blood.