Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I'd just like to make clear where I stand on all this lest one or two of you regard me as an anti-immigrant hawk.
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I, like other reasonable people on this thread, object to Muslim males, without identity documents, seeking asylum in the UK when there's the whole of Europe for them to claim asylum. Rationale revolves round not knowing whom we would be receiving, nor their affiliations, nor their jihadist/terrorism leanings given past terrorism events, particularly from Muslim migrants to the UK..
1. Maybe consider replacing reasonable people with paid up Conservatives?
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I, like other reasonable people on this thread, fully support genuine refugees from anywhere who seek to come to the UK on any valid legal premise - be that UK law, ECHR or UNHCR treaties. In that regard, I expect them to have a valid basis for fleeing their country, able to reasonably prove this and I'd be sympathetic to families or women with children.#
2. Maybe consider adding something along the lines of making the process for the people you [the Conservatives] approve of a bit easier, like visa applications for Ukrainians in Ukrainian instead of just English? Saying and doing are quite different, it's a shame we have a government that likes to say things but when it comes to the doing is all to often lacking.
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I, like other reasonable people on this thread, do not want to set a precedent for millions of Muslims coming to this country and totally destroying our culture by reason of their numbers and eventual possible domination of politics (an agenda I ascribe to either/both of Saudi Arabia/Iran). Diversity is not a democratic principle; it has the potential to destroy indigenous culture.
3. Just ingrained Conservative dogma, also see comment for para 1.
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Because we are signatories to the ECHR, we must abide by its rules. I believe that those rules should be updated to deal with the present trafficking crisis and the Guvmin needs to tell us what it is planning in that regard. My rationale is simply to look at 1930s Germany, when that country turned to institutional racism without there being any backstop (not that such a backstop would have worked); whilst I don't expect that to happen here, creeping exceptions to human rights can occur in any democracy and I don't want to see that here.
4. Consider deleting all text after the first sentence. It's time for the Conservatives to stop thinking they can just change rules that are a bit inconvenient or will upset the harder right of the party. As Mrs G says, it's time for Boris to grow a pair and represent the whole country and not just a few people hiding away in a WhatsApp group.
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I don't like the EU - specifically the power-grabbing Commission. But, when we were in, I did approve of Free Movement and was content with the Single Market/Customs Union. But UK sovereignty has trumped all that. We now need to get the UNHCR/EHCR articles updated. That'll take some time but in the meantime, we must find legal methods to stop the people trafficking.
5. Was this because most of the EU is white and not on the whole Muslim i.e. looks like most of us. I feel the impacts of the loss of cheap foreign labour is starting to bite and maybe just maybe, like other reasonable people on this thread leavers are starting to see the impact.
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