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Originally Posted by Chris
A cheap shot unworthy of someone who styles themselves as an ideas man. Also, wilfully ignorant of the historical resources widely available to it. Our own country’s last existential struggle is still, just, within living memory. Perhaps you should spend some time considering that and thinking about Ukraine’s position on its own terms, instead of insisting on seeing everything through the lens of your seething hatred of America.
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I fail to see how it's a cheap shot when it perfectly sums up the tone of your post.
As for the Ukraine's position on it's own terms I'm intrigued at how you claim I've dismissed it when you so enthusiastically encompass it exclusively (but unsurprisingly) within American imperialist rhetoric seeking unattainable and unrealistic objectives.
The lessons have not been learned of Iraq or Afghanistan, and we have the latest front line in the battle to reverse increasingly diminishing American (and by proxy British) relevance on a global stage.
I have considered the Ukrainian position and a conscript army funded by US dollars sacrificed to prevent even minimal westward expansion of Russia seems somewhat an undesirable outcome. Widows and children living perpetually as refugees in foreign lands is equally an undesirable outcome. There is no rationale to be absolutely uncompromising, in particular around the already disputed regions which they have denied self-determination to, unless it is being fought on American terms.
I don't have a seething hatred for America, however I simply will not sit here as a keyboard cheerleader as America bankroll another generation of another country fight itself out of existence without questioning what benefit - if any - there will be for them in the long run. This has been a proxy war from the start - hence the decision to separate men of fighting age from women and children with the latter bizarrely welcomed all around Europe despite a supposed migrant crisis.