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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
Chris seriously where did I say anything about not challenging my views. I simply asked you not to try and draw me into religious discussions as I do not wish to discuss such matters with you after last time.
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
You are incredibly judgemental for a man of your position Chris.
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You’re trying to get me to stop challenging you by accusing me of being ‘judgmental’, which, let’s face it, is an attempt to appeal to the Bible and therefore hard to understand if you really don’t want to open a religious dimension to this discussion.
We all make judgments every day about all sorts of things. Not being judgmental in a Biblical sense has a particular meaning and application. Telling someone on a discussion forum you think they’re wrong about something probably isn’t it.
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Originally Posted by jfman
In the real world the United States and it’s allies have acted with impunity throughout the world, intervening in civil wars, toppling democratically elected governments and manufacturing evidence along the way so long as it suits it’s own economic ends. The failures of the last couple of decades have emboldened Russia, and likely China. But to fall back on a self-righteous narrative of being the good guys and asking everyone to play nicely under a pretence of meaningful international law isn’t going to work.
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A fair comment, and our interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan must be seen as part of the overall backdrop to this. When history is written I expect they will be.
Nevertheless, whataboutery won’t get us anywhere while the war is raging in Ukraine. Russia’s sense of emboldenment does not mean Ukraine should submit, nor does it mean Western nations should not support it.