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**Hugh** · 10-06-2022, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

There is a Russian side to the story that I am starting to see trickle through (without me going looking) Like how the democratic government of Ukraine was over thrown 2014 and the current leadership simply a puppet for right wing overlords. On top of that severe racist mistreatment of Russians promoted by said leaders.

Not expressing any opinion but like I said right from the start we are seeing a hell of a lot of anti Russian propaganda and I personally have been treating all the news on it pretty much as such

2 sides to every story and war I guess and we are only hearing one side

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in fact if you look Ukraine has been incredibly unstable for a very long time

There may be two sides to every story, but when one of those sides repeatedly invades and illegally seizes land from another country and sets up puppet regimes, perhaps it's salient not to fully not trust that side's story...

You may find this of interest - it's from Al Jazeera, not renowned for it's pro-Western bias.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...ndence-in-1991

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2013
Yanukovich’s government suspends trade and association talks with the EU in November and opts to revive economic ties with Moscow, triggering months of mass rallies in Kyiv.

2014
The protests, largely focused around Kyiv’s Maidan square, turn violent. Dozens of protesters are killed.

In February, parliament votes to remove Yanukovich, who flees. Within days, armed men seize the parliament of the Ukrainian region of Crimea and raise the Russian flag.

Moscow annexes the territory after a March 16 referendum which shows overwhelming support in Crimea for joining the Russian Federation.

In April, pro-Russian separatists in the eastern region of Donbas declare independence. Fighting breaks out and has continued sporadically, despite frequent ceasefires, into 2022.

In May, businessman Petro Poroshenko wins a presidential election with a pro-Western agenda.

In July, a missile brings down passenger plane MH17 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, killing all 298 people on board. The weapon used is traced back by investigators to Russia, which denies involvement.

2017
An association agreement between Ukraine and the EU is passed, opening markets for free trade of goods and services, and visa-free travel to the EU for Ukrainians.

2019
A new Ukrainian Orthodox church wins formal recognition, angering the Kremlin.

Former actor and comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy defeats Poroshenko in an April presidential election, promising to tackle corruption and end the simmering conflict in eastern Ukraine. His Servant of the People party wins a July parliamentary election.